We believe that the best handwritten note-taking app is one that provides a wide variety of options and a full set of features. These apps can come especially in handy for certain use cases such as students taking lecture notes, those committed to keeping a journal, and anyone who appreciates the art of putting pen to paper. With handwriting being the focus instead of keyboard-based text entry, drawings and doodles can take shape, margins can be utilized, and the tools as a whole are completely different. When the iPad was first announced, its notebook-like shape (and name) seemed to make this type of use inevitable, but it’s only been in recent years with the release of the Apple Pencil that handwriting on the platform has been allowed to shine.Ī good app for handwriting has an entirely different place in the iOS ecosystem compared to a traditional note-taking app (like Bear, our favorite app in that category). Thanks.With the rise of the tablet, a special type of note-taking app has come along that emulates pencil and paper. Huggums537 ( talk) 04:28, 17 August 2022 (UTC) Reply Updated new example. ![]() There is a current discussion for a great example under way at Talk:List of 2022 albums#List criteria - Consensus, and I plan to use that discussion and example as the new one for this template after discussion is complete. ![]() ![]() Mathglot ( talk) 02:46, 17 August 2022 (UTC) Reply Great. Huggums537 ( talk) 00:53, 17 August 2022 (UTC) Reply Would you like to suggest better wording? I don't find it as problematic as you do, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be improved, and if you can reword it in a way that solves the problems you see and is at least equally good, I don't see why we couldn't change it. This is a terrible example that promotes what I see as not within guidance, and also not representative of what the majority of subjects use the template for, so I suggest a better example to be used. Perhaps I should seek a wider venue? Huggums537 ( talk) 01:19, 17 August 2022 (UTC) Reply Also, I still have a complaint with the template. It will be unreasonable to post a message on all those talk pages. ![]() Huggums537 ( talk) 00:49, 17 August 2022 (UTC) Reply Actually, I see the problem is on all pages related to terrorist incidents. I'll transfer my complaint to that talk page. It isn't the template I should be concerned with, it is only on the list criteria for List of terrorist incidents. Huggums537 ( talk) 00:40, 17 August 2022 (UTC) Reply Wait a minute, I think I see your point. That means the actual requirement isn't read as just an example on the roughly 290 items that use the template. I believe you have the mistaken factoid since the usage of the wording "example" only exists on the template documentation for purposes of illustration, but actual usage of the template reads as: To be included on this stand-alone list, each entry should meet the following list criteria (see discussion): (1) The incident is notable (has a stand-alone article), and (2) the consensus of WP:RSes describe the incident as "terrorism". NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 22:45, 16 August 2022 (UTC) Reply Hi, NAEG thanks for responding. All that said, the bottom line is that you are criticizing an example as though it were a overall dictate for every situation, which is not the case. On the other hand, eds could instead agree to use the notion of meriting their own Wikipedia article, as opposed to actually having one. If eds decide to use existing Wikipedia articles as a measure of notability, great! That consensus can be documented via this template. In your first sentence you state a mistaken factoid, i.e., that the template says " The incident is notable (has a stand-alone article)." Read it again please. Huggums537 ( talk) 17:11, 16 August 2022 (UTC) Reply Please read it again. Otherwise, the template is out of line with guidance. We need to redefine that "the incident is notable" doesn't mean "has an article". Establishing a list based on "Wikipedia articles only" violates WP:SELFREF, WP:CIRCULAR, MOS:OVERLINK, and is not encyclopedic since it doesn't allow other notable entries such as redlinks, redirects, or other plain black text notable mentions. See Template:List entries are all notable for a good example. In fact, WP:CSC says notable red links are allowed. The template says: The incident is notable (has a stand-alone article), and then links to Wikipedia:Stand-alone list and Wikipedia:LISTCRITERIA, as well as the discussion, but none of the list criteria say that establishing notability is just only about having a Wikipedia article.
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